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Zetec cooling

 
Author philwaters7
Planning a blat
#1 | Posted: 19 Jul 2014 16:01 
After a spot of advice.

A few weeks ago I decided to swap my cooling system over to a header tank style, having got a little tired of loosing a bit of coolant into the expansion bottle of hot days.

I got a Fiesta/Escort thermostat housing (rather than just run a blanking cap as I was keen to increase the bonnet clearance) and an expansion bottle (http://tinyurl.com/m6vc4n8). I run the Raceline water rail and was running a heater bypass pipe (connecting the submarine pipe to halfway along the water rail) so I plugged the water rail connection and took the pipe from the submarine pipe and connected it to the heater tank, which I mounted as high as I could where the heater used to be. I also took a small pipe from the T'housing to the heater tank for the air to escape.

The other evening, when driving home from the pub meet, I noticed that the temperature was cycling - it would increase to around 100 deg before dropping rapidly. It would then repeat this, mostly stabilizing by the time I arrived home.
Now, I've never had this with the Raceline waterrail, but I do know it was a bit of an issue - the temp would build until the thermostat would open, letting cold water circulate, closing the thermostat, and so on.

So, I decided to try adding the bypass pipe back onto the waterrail, connecting it into a T-piece in the submarine to header pipe. This, however, has not worked as now the water is being pumped up through the engine and out of the waterrail pipe into the header tank, the air being expelled down the small pipe to the T'housing. The header tank fills up to the top and eventually leaks, but if I switch off, the water level drains back immediately and likewise, if I pinch the small pipe, the header tank doesn't fill up until released.

So - for the time being I have reverted to a non-header tank system to keep the car on the road while I figure it out.

What have I done? Anyone running a Raceline waterrail and a header tank - if so, what is the plumbing setup? I feel I need the bypass bit to keep water flowing around the engine, but it is causing the water level issue. The thermostat I have is an 88 deg one which has its own built-in small bypass hole, but I haven't, yet, drilled any additional holes.

Cheers,

Phil

Author Eugene

Heading South
Male
#2 | Posted: 19 Jul 2014 17:23 
On my Zetec I use a very simple sealed header tank.

Header tank

This is just an expansion tank, with a single hose connection into the cooling system (the bottom hose) with the top hose just an overflow, which never actually overflows...

We have just done a similar installation on Captain Plughwas's S47.

Works perfectly.

I'll sort out some more images...

Oh, do remember you need a 3mm hole in the thermostat with the Receline water rail.
Eugene
Le Presidente

Author Eugene

Heading South
Male
#3 | Posted: 20 Jul 2014 10:01 
Here is a slightly better piccy, showing the full installation (just)...

Header tank

And the same set-up in Captain Plugwash's bathtub.

Bathtub

Eugene
Le Presidente

Author philwaters7
Planning a blat
#4 | Posted: 20 Jul 2014 14:24 
Cheers for those, that is effectively what I am now running, but I have the heater loop in situ.

Certainly worked fine on this mornings blat. So I guess I'll leave well alone for the time being as I am really bored of pulling things apart.
I might get a spare t'stat and try the 3mm hole and reconnect the header tank with a blanked off t'housing and heater loop. That should cure the level rising issue and also the cycling temps of the t'stat opening and closing.


Author Caterham Zetec
Driving through town
#5 | Posted: 20 Jul 2014 17:36 
This is how mine is piped up using the standard Ford thermostat housing (mine is the alloy one off an early Orion Ghia with a Zetec) and no heater.



Its been like this for 12 years now on a Silvertop and now a Blacktop. Its worked perfectly all the time.

This is how it looks in the car.



I was warned off the Raceline waterail by several people when I investigated the best way to fit the Zetec. James Whiting explained why it would not work. I listened to the advice and after I had looked at the way the Zetec was piped up in a Mondeo what James said made perfect sense. The way mine is piped perfectly copies the way Ford have piped up millions of Mondeo's, Escorts, Focus's etc using Zetecs.

Ford know a thing about cooling systems, why not simply copy what they did.

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